Monday, May 2, 2011

Men have good reason to fear and avoid women 1,270

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In Backlash: The Undeclared War Against Women author Susan Faludi discusses the backlash from the women's movement and what it did to men. She says that men became so frightened and so leery of women that they became ambivalent about their desire to relate to women in a serious manner. They had a need to have a woman in their life but they were simply reluctant to do so.

Have women been so ruthless that they've painted themselves into a corner? For now, anyway, men are considered the outcasts of society but I suspect they'll make a comeback with a vengeance.

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1. Dave left...Sat, 03/12/05 4:10 pm

What do you think of Susan Faludi's report?


2. Dave left...Sat, 03/12/05 5:31 pm

Men continue to fear women. Women call for divorces in the majority of incidences and men don't want the bad things to happen to them that they've seen happen to married men in general. Too much pain and expense to be involved with women in North America.


3. a reader left...Sat, 03/12/05 8:42 pm

some of us juat want to love and be loved, no hidden agendas.

Juanita Richards [ja.richards@clear.net.nz]


4. Dave left...Sat, 03/12/05 9:21 pm

Juanita - Too bad there aren't more like you.


5. a reader left...Sat, 03/12/05 11:49 pm

American woman are like American motorcycles, expensive, high maintenance, too heavy, temperamental unreliable, age fast.
Japanese motorcycles cost less, are not heavy, very low maintenance and reliable, and when some thing goes wrong they are easy to figure out and repair.

rod


6. a reader left...Tue, 04/12/05 1:30 am

To Juanita,

There are plenty of guys out there who want to be in a relationship, but the problem is that so many women are nothing but a bunch of stuck-up and selfish ingrates who crap on guys every chance they get. As far as I'm concerned, these dumb bitches get burn in hell.

Tommy


7. a reader left...Tue, 04/12/05 1:35 am

To Juanita,

One more thing. There are a lot of good guys out there who want a relationship but wind up getting used by the most conniving and deceptive bitches alive or as I mentioned earlier, the women are simply ungrateful. This is why I believe that men are better off trusting rattlesnakes than women.

Tommy


8. RAY THOMAS left...Fri, 09/02/05 6:20 pm

Tommy pretty much said what I was going to say. This is the personification of why man and women hate each other as much as the palestinians and the israelites.Bad comparison, look at each thread on here and it will prove my point.


9. Ali left...Fri, 09/02/05 9:01 pm

Well at least with the rattlesnake you pretty much know what your chances of survival are...you're fucked. The rattlesnake does not pretend to be harmless and then strike you like a woman does. Lol. With the snake...well you already know it's venomous and deadly plus at least you get some warning as it shakes it's rattle. Oh yeah and there are antidotes to the poison. What's the antitode for a woman's poison? Anybody?Oh yeah, Jack Daniels and other hard liqor. lol.


10. Dave left...Fri, 09/02/05 10:49 pm

>>What's the antitode for a woman's poison? Anybody?<
11. Ali left...Sat, 09/03/05 2:22 am

Ok but at some point we will want to be fathers and family men...what do we do then?


12. sophia left...Sat, 09/03/05 3:16 am

“I sensed each one of my steps. They resonated on the ground; their echo produced the indescrible euphoria of being a man.” - Carlos CastanedaI see so much anger in men here. So much defensiveness, and blame. Now from what I know when you are confident in yourself, when you are assured of your value and position in life, people can call you whatever, but you will just smile, “a... , interesting thought ...,” but knowing that you are what you are and that you are happily what you are, you do not get offended or feel threatened.Men are so angry because feminism has said that “men are the scum of the earth and that the world would be a better place without them.” Men feel so angry because they feel devalued, no longer sure about their place in the world. Because of this I thought I would give you something to feel good about yourselves.The following was written by Robert M. Alter, psychotherapist and Author.Ten Good Things About Men1.Even at our worst, we're not evil, we're just hurt and we act out our hurt by hurting others. Even when we do evil and cruel things, our cruelty is not intrinsic, but is a consequence of being traumatized by the teachings of our culture, which tell us to control and dominate, be hard and unfeeling, to put ourselves first, to not respect women. It's not that our behavior is excusable – in fact, it's sometimes unconscionable – but it is explainable. When men behave badly, that behavior has been caused by trauma. That means we can overcome it – because trauma is healable.2.Many men, and more and more men, are trying to heal. To do the work they need to do on themselves to stop being so hurt, they are reading books, listening to tapes, attending meetings and men's groups and lectures and workshops and retreats, going to churches and temples and meditation centers, laughing at the silliness of macho behavior as it's pointed out by comedians and sitcoms and movies. More and more men are looking at themselves. More and more of us are doing the work of healing.3.Underneath the damage wrought in us by the delusions and lies of our elders, we find kindness, generosity, and the desire to be supportive and helpful. We love to use our muscular strength, our resourcefulness, and our intelligence to help whoever comes to us seeking help. We love to solve problems. We love to serve. At our best, we understand the duty and purpose of our lives to be a covenant of service to those whom we love.4.At our best, we are protectors and providers, struggling on behalf of the whole human race to make the sometimes unfriendly physical environment here on earth safe and secure. This is rooted very deep within us. We areinstinctually and often self-sacrificially compelled to protect our families, our communities, our nations, and our species from want or harm, by providing, to the best of our ability and the limits of our strength and ingenuity, the food, shelter, clothing, fuel and tools we all need in order to feel safe and secure in our environment. We are not afraid of hard work, and are capable of vast amounts of it. We take on our protector and provider responsibilities with the fervor of a knight and the endurance of a mule.5.Even though feeling our feelings is not our strong suit, and we get kind of agitated when anyone is feeling their feelings anywhere in our vicinity, we're working hard on it and we're starting to get more comfortable with feelings. That's a big one for us. Therapist though I am, it's certainly still a big one for me.Once, my wife and I were out skating on a pond when she fell and hurt her knee. She lay curled up on the ice, holding her knee, loudly moaning “OW!,” and crying. I stood over her, leaning on my hockey stick, feeling an interesting mixture of embarrssment, compassion, contempt, admiration, and panic. How can she be crying, for god's sakes?! She just fell on the ice! No one cries when they fall on ice! Rusty and Marty Swartz didn't cry when they fell on ice! They just got up and skated it off! That's what you're supposed to do when you fall on ice – get up and skate it off!-not lie there crying. Am I supposed to comfort her? Am I supposed to kneel down and actually do something? What am I supposed to do? I quess I'll just stand here leaning jauntily on my hockey stick until it blows.over.This is pretty much what it sounds like inside a man when someone's feeling their feelings near him; but I think we're finally realizing that feelings are not going to blow over, and we've got to welcome feelings in others and feel them in ourselves.6.Our hearts are filled with joy and exuberance of life itself. We are full of energy, and all we really want to do with that energy is play and have fun in life. There is a part of us that was, is, and will always be a boy playing football with his friends on a late Saterday afternoon in October and having a smiecstatic experience every time he gets tackled in the leaves. The part of us that is not Russel but Rusty and not Martin but Marty, the part of us that is not and will never be grown up, is a beautiful part of us, and will always be young and will always be playing.7.Some of us are really funny, clowns and comedians at heart, with quick wits and antic ways. We love to make people laugh, and we really love to make the women we love laugh.8.We are strong. Some of us have physical strength, our bodies hard and tight, with big bulging muscles that carry human beings out of burning houses. In some of us, the strength is inside – strength of intellect, of purpose, of generosity, of love and loyalty and devotion, the strength of the aspiring spiritual heart. Look at the strength of us! Look for the strength in us!9We are Buddha. Socrates. Jesus. Moses. Mahatma Gandhi. Muhammed. Muhammed Ali. Nelson Mandela. Cesar Chavez. Abraham Lincoln. Shakespeare. Schweitzer. Einstein. Martin Luther King. B.B. King. Black Elk. Omar Bradley. Michael Jordan. Larry Bird. Wayne Grezky. Christopher Reeve. And so on. We are every great and gifted man who has ever lived in the history of the human species. We are every decent and upright and hard-working man who has ever lived and loved and looked after or fought to protect his family or his society. We are many; and we are worthy of the worl's respect, gratitude, admiration, and love.10.We are spiritual warriors, searching within our beings for the Divine Consciousness that lies at the core of our beings. We seek the Holy of Hjolies in our own hearts. Just as it is for women, our life is a quest for Truth of our own nature, and we are warriors staunch and steady on that quest.I for one, am grateful for what the men in my life have taught me, and the love that they had given me, it is because of men that I was able to reach my own full strength. Be proud in your maleness and you will attract the right women into your life.


13. Tommy left...Sat, 09/03/05 9:53 am

Sophia - Thanks for the words of wisdom.


14. Adrian left...Sun, 09/11/05 3:43 am

Men are now starting to avoid women all together, because of the headaches they cause. Think about it men are tired about living up to women needs, what about OUR needs!!!! Men have been brainwashed since they were younger about how to treat women. Every female, even the male's mother tells him to "Treat every girl like the queen, or princess that she is." WHAT!!!!!!! What about US!!!!!! How come the mothers tell the girls to treat men like KINGS, or at least show support to him, and not use him as a way to gain status in society. Every mother tells her daughter this "Make sure he treats you like the little princess that you are." WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT!!!!!! This is why you have a society of spoiled women. Women tend to want men to do everything in the relationship, without any effort on their part. This shit is really pissing me off!!!!!! Mothers need to let their sons know that every girl doesn't deserve to be treated like "princesses" she have to be worthy of this treatment, not because she can put on eyeliner. WE AS A SOCIETY HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY, OR AT LEAST MODIFY THE WAY WE TEACH THINGS TO OUR CHILDREN.


15. Django left...Mon, 11/09/09 10:54 am

I suggest women work it out for themselves. It's not difficult.If this is beyond their capabilities then there is certainly nothing I could say which would make the slightest difference.The female's ability to answer this question correctly is a test of their suitability for any relationship with the opposite sex.


16. pick up artist training left...Thu, 04/21/11 1:52 am :: http://www.theartofsuave.com/

I think it's not the problem of men but women. They are becoming so tough and sometimes rude nowadays.



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